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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:23 | 显示全部楼层
托尔金使用“wise”(智慧的、英明的)这个词的用意何在??作为一位语言学家,他用词当然不会随手拈来。他很有可能是对它的历史做了一翻研究并认为它是最接近他所要表达的意思之后,才选中这一个词的。而当我们考究“wise”一词的时候,我们会发现这一个古老的词其语意是如此之重但却又如此地富于变化。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:33 | 显示全部楼层
"Wise" comes to us from the Indo-European root word "weid-", "to see". The adjective "wise" refers to something perceptive, shrewd, prudent, or to a person who possesses great knowledge, keen judgement, or the ability to perceive what is right and true. As a noun, "wise" may be used to refer to "a way" (as of doing things); or it may refer to people who are deemed to be wise, as in the Bible's references to "the wise (who did something prudent)".

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:38 | 显示全部楼层
“wise”一词源于印欧语系里的词根:“weid-”,意为:“看”。作为形容词,“wise”可以用来形容人的解能力强、精明、谨慎,或者是那些博学多才、思维敏锐以及特别有真知灼见的人。作为名词,“wise”可以用来指“一种方法(比如做事的方法)”;或是指那些被认为是慎虑的人,就象在《圣经》中所说的“(行事谨慎的)智者”。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:43 | 显示全部楼层
Tolkien's Elven-wise, the Wise, are not simply prudent people, although both Gildor and Glorfindel seem rather prudent. Nor are they merely knowledgeable or perceptive people. Elrond 5is a master of wisdom and lore, but he also foresees many things, and perceives hidden meaning behind events. Galadriel, too, possesses great wisdom, though hers seems more born of experience than learning (as Elrond's seems to derive mostly from study), but Galadriel is also very perceptive, seeing deeper into the hearts of others than anyone else.

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:56 | 显示全部楼层
托尔金所说的精灵智者、或是智者,并不仅仅是指那些谨慎的精灵,尽管吉尔多尔和格洛芬德看起来都特别的谨慎。他们也并不是只是知识渊博和思维敏锐而已。埃尔隆是知识和智慧的掌有者,但他还能够预见未来、洞察那些隐藏在事物背后的秘密。盖拉德丽尔夫人,尽管她也拥有丰富的学识,但看起来她的学识更多的是来自于她的经验而不是学习(不象埃尔隆那样,看起来更多的是来自学习)。不过,盖拉德丽尔夫人同样也有相当高的洞察力,并比其他的任何人能更深入地洞察人们的内心。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:58 | 显示全部楼层
托尔金所说的精灵智者、或是智者,并不仅仅是指那些谨慎的精灵,尽管吉尔多尔和格洛芬德看起来都特别的谨慎。他们也并不是只是知识渊博和思维敏锐而已。埃尔隆是知识和智慧的掌有者,但他还能够预见未来、洞察那些隐藏在事物背后的秘密。盖拉德丽尔夫人,尽管她也拥有丰富的学识,但看起来她的学识更多的是来自于她的经验而不是学习(不象埃尔隆那样,看起来更多的是来自学习)。不过,盖拉德丽尔夫人同样也有相当高的洞察力,并比其他的任何人能更深入地洞察人们的内心。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:42:59 | 显示全部楼层
托尔金所说的精灵智者、或是智者,并不仅仅是指那些谨慎的精灵,尽管吉尔多尔和格洛芬德看起来都特别的谨慎。他们也并不是只是知识渊博和思维敏锐而已。埃尔隆是知识和智慧的掌有者,但他还能够预见未来、洞察那些隐藏在事物背后的秘密。盖拉德丽尔夫人,尽管她也拥有丰富的学识,但看起来她的学识更多的是来自于她的经验而不是学习(不象埃尔隆那样,看起来更多的是来自学习)。不过,盖拉德丽尔夫人同样也有相当高的洞察力,并比其他的任何人能更深入地洞察人们的内心。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:09 | 显示全部楼层
Celeborn is called "the wise" but many readers feel he doesn't live up to his reputation. The general view seems to be that Galadriel could outmaneuver Celeborn in a one-way street, or lead him any way she pleases. Galadriel only really outshines Celeborn in one scene, but she does get her own scene with Frodo and Sam, whereas Celeborn sits back and lets Galadriel do most of the work in ferreting out the Fellowship's motives and intentions.

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:12 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:14 | 显示全部楼层
凯勒鹏也被称为“智者”,但很多读者却觉得他名不副实。大家普遍认为是盖拉德丽的独断专行挫败了他,或将其随意摆布。盖拉德丽尔在有一点上确实比凯勒鹏要高明一些,当她与佛多和山姆交锋的时候,而凯勒鹏只是退在一边,刺探护戒队员的内心和想法的工作完全交由他的妻子去处理。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:21 | 显示全部楼层
It is Celeborn, however, who understands and acknowledges the implications of the Fellowship's actions or indecision. Galadriel is praised for her gentle admonishment to Celeborn when he regrets his welcome of Gimli and his companions, upon learning that a Balrog dwells near the border of Lorien. But Celeborn does quickly assess the danger to his people: if the Balrog had been roused by the Dwarves, then it plainly might follow the Fellowship into Lorien. Gandalf, too, seems to have understood what could happen -- and that is why he sacrifices himself. There is no other way to prevent the Balrog from achieving whatever end it has in mind. Frodo and the Ring are in the gravest peril from the Balrog, and even Lorien's Elves wouldn't be able to protect him.

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:27 | 显示全部楼层
但正是凯勒鹏了解和认识到了护戒队的行动以及他们的优柔寡断所带来的牵联。而当知道洛林的边界附近有一只炎魔的时候,盖拉德丽尔则以一种让人赞赏的高姿态警告了她那位拒绝欢迎吉姆利和他的同伴的丈夫。但凯勒鹏很快地估算了一下接纳矮人等人给他的子民所带来的可能危险:如果那只炎魔是矮人族供养的话,那么显而易见它会跟随他们进入洛林。甘达夫可能也早就意识到了这一点:这就是他为什么牺牲了自己的原因,因为再没有别的办法阻止那只炎魔去达到它已经决定了的目的。佛多和魔戒都受到了来自炎魔的巨大的威胁,而且即使是洛林的精灵也无力保护他。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:32 | 显示全部楼层
Celeborn also perceives the doubt and confusion in Aragorn, when it is time for the Fellowship to depart from Lorien, and therefore Celeborn gives Aragorn some extra time to think by providing the Company of the Ring with boats. The boats allow Aragorn to defer his choices for at least a few more days. But Celeborn, like Elrond before him, engages in a bit of foresight. When the Fellowship leaves Rivendell, Elrond and Gimli exchange truisms about oaths and abiding by them. Their words foreshadow events to come.

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:36 | 显示全部楼层
当护戒队要离开洛林的时候,凯勒鹏还察觉到了阿拉贡内心的疑虑,因此他给护戒队员们提供船只做为交通工具,这使得阿拉贡会有多一些的时候来思考。船只的航行让阿拉贡至少多了几天的时间来推迟选择。但凯勒鹏也象前面的那一位埃尔隆一样,有一定的预见能力。当护戒队员们离开利文德尔的时候,埃尔隆和吉姆利对他们的誓言和容忍度的真实度也进行了交流。他们的话预示了所将要发生的事情。

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发表于 2009-7-7 22:43:52 | 显示全部楼层
类似的,尽管交流短暂,博罗米尔还是因为不相信那些年长的妇女的故事而受到了凯勒鹏的警告。凯勒鹏指出,一旦遇上紧要关头的时候,往往是那些上年纪的妇女还记得那些事情。尽管方贡森林是博罗米口中嘲笑的对象,但正是那位在米那斯提力斯的老妇攸瑞丝,后来回忆起的诗歌鼓舞甘达夫带阿拉贡前往米那斯提力斯去冶疗梅里、伊奥温和法拉米尔(以及,后来城中的许多患者——这提高了阿拉贡在人们中的威信也证明了他正是王者的继承人。)
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